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EP. 185 · 17.05.2026 · 1:01:12

SCALING, SUPERHUMAN AI AND ALPHAFOLD

with Demis Hassabis

ScalingAlphaFoldAlphaZeroResearchScience1:01:12

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EPISODE BRIEF — EP. 185 · SCALING, SUPERHUMAN AI AND ALPHAFOLD
Guest: Demis Hassabis · Published: 17.05.2026 · Duration: 1:01:12

【OVERVIEW】
A research-dense conversation: whether scaling alone gets us there, how AlphaZero-style search might sit atop language models, and what AlphaFold proved about AI as an instrument of science.

【KEY TAKEAWAYS】
1. Does scaling suffice?
2. Search on top of language models
3. AlphaFold and structural biology
4. AI for scientific discovery

【CHAPTERS】
00:00 — Does scaling suffice?
16:00 — Search on top of language models
34:00 — AlphaFold and structural biology
50:00 — AI for scientific discovery

【TOPICS】Scaling · AlphaFold · AlphaZero · Research · Science

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A research-dense conversation: whether scaling alone gets us there, how AlphaZero-style search might sit atop language models, and what AlphaFold proved about AI as an instrument of science.

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DEMIS HASSABIS

Co-founder & CEO, Google DeepMind

Leads Google DeepMind's research agenda across Gemini, AlphaFold and scientific applications of machine learning.

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